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Sue McCabe on Pediatric Sleep: Comfort, Complexity, and Thermoregulation

  • 19 hours ago
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Dr. Sue McCabe BSc, MSc, PhD

Founder of SleepLinks



"The most important thing is sleep is a 24 hour concern. When we are concerned with sleep, we're actually concerned with the rhythms of day and night, the rhythms of every aspect of our activity and our environment. That's what is important to sleep, and sleep is important to those things."


Sue McCabe, BSc, MSc, PhD


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Podcast Highlights

  • 00:09:00 — Thermoregulation in Children with CP

  • 00:13:00 — Warm Hands, Warm Feet, and Falling Asleep

  • 00:18:00 — The Dietician Conversation That Changed Everything

  • 00:22:00 — The 24-Hour Lens in Practice

  • 00:24:00 — Activity Load, Outdoor Time & Sleep Drive

  • 00:26:30 — Light, Circadian Rhythms & the Body Clock

  • 00:28:30 — Family Context, Attachment & Safety

  • 00:29:30 — Gold Standard Sleep: Timing, Quality, Regularity & Location

  • 00:31:00 — Melatonin: Nuance, Dosing & Misconceptions

  • 00:37:00 — Disrupted Sleep Cycles: Where Do You Start?

  • 00:38:00 — Iron, Vitamin D, Pain & Sleep-Disordered Breathing

  • 00:41:00 — Beyond Behaviour: Routines, Sensory Comfort & Positioning

  • 00:44:00 — Sleep Onset Associations & Night Waking

  • 00:45:00 — Dystonia & Sleep

  • 00:50:00 — Blindness, Circadian Rhythm & “Turbocharging” Cues

  • 00:53:00 — Where to Start in Complex Presentations

  • 00:58:00 — Trauma, Night Terrors & Parasomnias

  • 01:03:00 — What Therapists Are Missing About Sleep

  • 01:07:00 — Advice for New Therapists

BIOGRAPHIES

Sue McCabe, BSc, MSc, PhD – Founder of SleepLinks

Occupational Therapist | Researcher | Educator | Churchill Fellow


Sue McCabe is a pioneering occupational therapist with nearly 45 years of experience across neuro and spinal rehabilitation, community paediatrics, and assistive technology. A 1980 graduate from Western Australia, she has worked with clients of all ages and conditions, providing specialised support in home modifications and customised seating and lying positioning systems.


Over two decades in assistive technology exposed Sue to a recurring but overlooked issue—the devastating impact of poor sleep on clients and caregivers. Missed appointments, reduced engagement, and visible declines in pain tolerance, attention, and memory pointed to a deeper systemic gap in sleep knowledge and service provision. This observation became the driving force behind her advanced academic journey.


Sue completed both her MSc and PhD investigating the factors affecting sleep in children with complex neuro-motor conditions, with a particular focus on thermoregulation and circadian rhythms. Awarded a Churchill Fellowship, she travelled to the UK and Canada to connect with leading researchers and clinicians in the field of sleep health.


Though now retired from clinical practice, Sue remains deeply engaged in the professional community through SleepLinks—her platform for knowledge sharing, professional training, and collaborative research. She is passionate about translating complex sleep and circadian science through the lens of occupational therapy’s person-environment-occupation (PEO) model, which she believes is uniquely suited to understanding and supporting healthy sleep.


Today, Sue champions a collaborative, multi-disciplinary approach to sleep health, grounded in practical application, scientific evidence, and human-centred care. For her, sleep is not a separate issue—it’s woven into every aspect of life, function, and participation.




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  • Your Sleep Comfort Map

    • A framework covering health/medical, rhythms/routines, sensory comfort, thermal comfort, position/movement comfort, sleep setting comfort, and behavior/wellbeing/communication


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